Dad has used Valspar for years without issues, but since my daughter works at Home Depot, she was told this paint was the greatest. You’d be re-priming instead of making the color deeper and richer. Are you guys lying about how great this paint is or do you just not know better. I did not get LESS than two coats on any wall. Finish paint- 2 coats: spraying and backroll is recommended for this application also- especially for the reasons you mention. Anyone needing some advice or help my addy is on yahoo …… “dm1171966” Good luck do it your selfer’s. So far, I am pleased with this paint. What kind of rollers did you use? I will consider this $40.00 can my primer coat. BEHR has defied the convention of laying a coat of primer before a coat of paint by combining both these products in one can. I’ve never seen a paint that has covered in one coat, satisfactorily. I still had to do more than 3 coats, as I was doing dark over light. I really am very disappointed and appalled at the outcome. 75. Full cure time is not dry time there is a difference… Dry time can range 1 – 2 hours to the touch… Cure time is when paint reaches it’s maximum hardness & is completely 100% dry…. I have small children so I thought this would be the best option. Like not on a 90+ degree in direct sunlight. Get a sample of the Behr and paint a 3×3 square BEFORE deciding to prime. Re: I just finished painting a room in a seafoam green color using the paint and primer in one. Your comments tell me everything I need to know. Covered awesomely ! I can’t tell you how many people I see everyday spend $200+ on good paint and then grab the cheap paint kits. Behr does not claim the paint and primer in one is only a one coat paint, only that it is guaranteed to cover exceptionally well and much better than other paints, which it certainly does. It delivers exceptional stain-resistance and durability, and it’s guaranteed to provide one-coat hide in over 1,000 different Behr colours*. The tenant said it took him three coats in his bathroom. Besides, what about if you have to paint a second coat? Never miss out on the hottest deals and latest news from BEHR. 436; Tint the base (ULTRA PURE WHITE®, medium or deep) with over 2,000 BEHR colors A paint and primer in one, Behr Premium Plus Ultra ® Interior is the latest innovation from Behr Paints, the largest provider of premium paints and stains to the North American Do-It-Yourself (DIY) home improvement market. After painting one side of our house, he had to admit that it has awesome coverage and coated beautifully, even over the dark brown paint samples we slathered on the house. Also, applying two coats is not any easier than a coat of primer and a coat of paint, which is usually cheaper….it’s just a marketing gimmick…. They give you a stir stick for a reason :0), Brand new Tuffshed – bare wood inside – sprayed one heavy coat of self priming White ! using Behr Ultra to skip a step was the worst painting mistake of my life – 21 cabinets to be redone after i peeled the Ultra off – in sheets. What I do NOT like are the rebate sells, I’ve got suckered on those twice, followed every rule to get my rebate, and have still not been paid. This is industrial sabotage at it’s most basic. The paint doesn’t even stick to the paper on the can. To get this Ultra paint to flow I overloaded the roller and it worked ok but afterward it had runs all over the place. On heavy stains and woods that contain tannins, allow 12-16 hours of dry time between coats. Home depot I despise, so I am leery of any claims they might make to have discovered some new “breakthru.” Whether you can cover in one coat depdends upon 1) the difference in colors, and 2) the quality of the paint. I will continue to use Behr products. Save your money and prime first. The grey primer absorbs the light behind the paint and you can cover in much less time. I tried it on a wall and on some furniture I was refinishing, and it was just AWFUL in both instances. It is beautiful! The finish looks great and professional. I do give Behr a prize for being the #1 company in misleading marketing. For a paint that's tough enough to tackle any room in your home without sacrificing beauty, choose BEHR PREMIUM PLUS® Interior Semi-Gloss Enamel paint. Don’t poison yourselves. I imagine some colors will fade over many years even if exterior paint is used outside. Prime† Blank space if empty. I am so disappointed. Using a gray primer, the gray tends to absorb some of the light that would typically reflect of a white/lighter color on the underside of your top coat. They go on smoothly, have low odor, good coverage, and interior walls are easy to clean. These paints have actual primer technology which assures added adhesion for the paint. Seems like there is a viscosity issue. The paint went on as good as any and coverage was fantastic, even on the metal doors. But I have always loved Behr and think it is this “NEW” Behr Premium Plus” Not the first one that has made this difference for me.. This mix of paint is the worst. The other said to use shorter roller strokes for this paint. Great job! This paint is great I dont really buy any other paint but this one. For the light green color, it was apparent that more coats were needed after 2 coats were applied due to streaking. This is the first time I have used Paint and Primer( there are two formulas of this FYI) Premium Plus, For all you compainer’s about the Behr Ultra Paint & Primer in One, I suggest you try Olympic ONE,the same concept but it really works. If you want Behr to replace the paint and labor…you’re going to have to file a complaint and send a sample of the paint the flaked off. My daughter works at Home Depot and was told this paint would work great on latex painted walls. I understand what you mean about credibility of some of the blogs. Use BEHR ULTRA paint as a primer for properly prepared uncoated or painted interior surfaces, including woods that contain tannins (two primer coats required for redwood and cedar) and heavily stained areas. For this project, I too, was talked into the paint plus primer as I was working with a shade of red paint. We are coat four and the walls are finally starting to appear even. So beware if you deal with Behr. If you didnt sand and painted over semigloss as most ppl do your fingure will remove a section of the paint. Old paint mixed with new drywall, etc. If you have ever painted a wall in a dark red you will understand. i MISSED WHAT HOME DEPOT HAD OVER THE PRESIDENTS HOLIDAY DUE TO BEING OUT OF TOWN. Stir paint occasionally. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. This paint runs doesn’t cover and probably won’t last long. They dont just give that rating out for fun. Could it be any less colorfast? Suitable for use on interior surfaces. two coats covered extremely well and would definitely use it again. Here is a little hint. I undergo various tests in staying updated on current qualities of products, as well as additional levels of on hands testing with products. It seals both uncoated and previously painted surfaces to create a finish that resists mildew, stains, moisture and stands up to scrubbing. You need a GREY primer under the red paint. I had planned to buy a Kilz primer until I found out Behr had this new product. It is obvious to me that you are anything but a “professional” which is frequently tossed around trying to impress those who are easily impressed. “Normal” paint job requires 1 coat primer 2 coats of paint. Good rollers and brushes are essential for a good job and good paint too. I just spent almost 2 days painting a small bedroom and closet using the Behr Ultra paint. Maybe need four or more coats before this is all over. I am 68 yrs and have painted a lot of walls. Laid the brush on the edge and started what I thought would be a nice long strke as usual. I just touched up paint in living room originally put up three years ago. Don’t use this crap, and tint your primer. We have choice of Behr, S.W., Color Wheel. She kept complaining about getting “chunks” off of the roller. And Home Depot even prints out a 2nd receipt to make applying for the Behr rebates easier. I do not no what to do other than peel the rest of the room off. But remember, coolness and dampness slow down drying and curing times. I have to say that it covered pretty well for a darker shade ( sage green), but like a number of other folks out there it peels severely whenever it gets dinged. Cheapo Crapo.. We just started painting with Behr paint&primer in one. Good coverage with Behr, good color stay over years, good adhesion and overall durability as well. Find coordinating colors then preview them in your own virtual room image. We just follow their rules. No loading on the ends of the roller, no crazy dog hairs left behind. Bought the same Bear Ultra with paint and primer, also not a stranger to painting with good paint (Ralph Lauren, Sears, Martha Stewart), this was on sale at Home Depot. I can’t belive how easy it comes off. I went to the paint dept. I think we chose the eggshell finish for this project as well. I can’t speak for the rest. There is a more efficient way to use a roller than just going straight up and down. We are in the midst of using Behr all in one paint and primer for the first time. As the old saying goes, “There’s nothing more expensive than a cheap can of paint”. If they are picked at, or abraded early in the curing cycle, delamination may occur. it will cause some particles to cling and seal to the walls and some to form a protective, colorful outer layer. Yes, it takes about 3 coats to cover the underlying bright white. Follow Mark’s advice. Was painting the rooms white. When you look at the Behr color chip, look next to the color name. A self priming paint typically goes on 3-4mil thick while wet. Nothing like good prep – clean, prime, and paint. Used it on window frame for shed- holding up well. As far as one coat coverage – the can recommends 2 coats and if anyone who is worth their weight knows 2 coats is always a much better paint job. Well the work involved on replacing the drywall for 1100 square feet is not an easy task as it is me only to do the work so this job would have cost me THOUSANDS to complete or hire a team to get it done. My verdict is BEHR Ultra gets the job done right. No wasted time with primer! Primer is totally different from paint. The instructions (as with 99% of the on shelf products) will explain how the product is to be used. and ammonia to clean the patio and lawn furnishings is cleaned round pets or youngsters. It just doesn’t work. Primer , especially water based primer, is crappy stuff. Some of the TV marketing makes it look like everything is done in one coat. brown over light paint and wallpaper. the same can be said for the painstaking blues and reds. The cabinets were cheap, old and ugly. Extra time needed to put on second coat!! About 15 years old, never painted, stained, or treated. Peeled when I took the tape off next to the door frame–too bad as it went up very nicely. Then I wet sanded with 180 grit by hand. For the waterline stripe used ultra semigloss exterior. In the room with ‘Morrocan Red’ color they use a high-hiding red pigment in the formula for Behr Ultra, and it took two coats. red (Dozen Roses) over white. Applied a second coat after about 4 hours dry time, and I did a pretty poor job of slopping paint over the tape near the ceiling. I'm figuring that I'll put on 3 or maybe 4 coats ... going on the idea that many light coats are better then a couple heavy ones. The ‘Edgy Red’ is a bright red: one primer coat of a medium pink, and two coats of the deep base red. I’ve used Behr paints for many years and never had a problem (except when I foolishly painted latex over oil). Thank God! I totally agree that you should use premium tools. Home Depot sells BEHR Premium Plus Ultra Paints for $23 to $40, depending on the finish and whether it’s interior or exterior. My duagher and I are painting a bedroom for her. according to the application tips on the can label the recommendation for vinyl is to paint with same or lighter color. I check the most likely cause for the problem; me. http://www.drywallconstruction.com/levels_of_finish.htm. You certainly put a new spin on a topic that’s been written about for Either you paint three times–one primer, two top coats–or just two top coats with this one. Paint and primer is just as stupid as the people that work at the paint department and the people that train them are in the same category, I’m having a nightmare painting my master bedroom! Quadruple the work! Its good for walls with existing paint that needs some stain blocking or concealing-thats it!! If I want something done right I do it the correct way and will not cut a corner. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Never a problem with Miller Paint..BTW love Miller’s Evolution Exterior for “this old house” of mine. They don’t make that good latex paint and the good oil base primer that stuck and stretched like it did in the 60s I used on my new house porch and rails Behr premium plus primer in one now I am having to paint again after 4 yrs I am not usings behr paint again. For someone who said that red paint needs a pink-tinted primer, you’re dead wrong. Then there’s adhesive primers as Behr, Zinsser, Gliddens Gripper & Zinsser’s Bin….. Oil based paints will not accept waterbase paints hence water oil do not mix ever however primer is a whole differant ballgame. Did I do it in half the time than if I have primed then painted? Someone said it best in this forum, “its peeling off like FRUIT ROLL-UPS”The paint is going back to HD tomorrow! They claim to be reusable, but we’ll see… I keep mine loaded with paint over night in a plastic bag sealed around the roller frame, and reload the next day. Only then do I use sign painters’ enamels on top. Read important application instructions to ensure optimum paint performance. It loads up on edges and then pulls off when I try to smooth it out. which they rated much lower. I even primed the worst room with a lighter color of Behr paint & primer to make the covering easier and it was no better than cheap wall primer. I will always buy the right primer for a bare substrate especially if my finish is going to have a sheen. Gray Is a neutral color and will reflect the top coats true color back. I bought Sherwin-Williams Poly/Wool covers this time for the biggest portion. I’ve used the regular paint and other brands. Very disappointed. The area that we didn’t prime LOOKS FABULOUS! I’m very curious as to the success rate of the combined paint and primer setup. I used their Weatherbeater paint which had worked nicely many years ago without problems. Two years later, the paint looks like the seconds day. Been using Behr for years and I love it. I was considering using Behr on new drywall in a new room, but now am thinking I will use primer just to be on the safe side. This acrylic latex paint has the added benefit of having low volatile organic compounds (VOC). If an interior home has not been painted for over 3 – to more years it’s best to prime 1st! Sort of. I just finished the first coat and if it wasn’t for my novice skills (have never painted before) we could already be done, it goes on that thick. BIG MISTAKE! Then I pull the dry tape. I retraced my stroke and still no paint. The Behr paint went on the un-primed areas just fine, but primed areas were so white that they cut through and will definitely require a second coat. Any so called “super/one step” paint will last less than a paint job previously primed before painting….and that means “ANY” including so called paint primer combinations. Backrolling after spraying is a good practice to coat the texture completely. The room was hot. And yes, in the majority of those repaints were done with Sears Easy Living (yes Sears). I thought it was just me, but after looking up these reviews, I find it is not “just me”…I should have checked here first before buying it. Carol. I have put 2 coats of Behr Plus semi-gloss on a wooden bed and have to put a third. Then on close inspection of the dining room, where I had a little end table sitting in a corner waiting to be moved into the living room (which I haven’t painted yet) I noticed the paint has rubbed off all around the edges of where the table is leaning. NEVER AGAIN!!! I am in the middle of painting a very long, high hallway and was concerned about the paint spreading very unevenly. Whether you use Behr or another if it’s new dry wall it needs to be primed 1st & not with a paint & primer combo a primer/sealer whether it’s a pva primer due to new texture/new dry wall or as I prefer a combo primer by Behr or Zinsser’s prime coat. Even the cheapest new paint looks good for a while. I purchased 15 gallons so that I could do the entire house. There is no way to get away from the primer phase of a good paint job. Apply when air and surface temperatures are between 50-90°F (10-32°C). 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