So, we don’t think one cartridge has an advantage over the other. It bettered the velocity of the benchmark .30-06 Springfield by over 200 fps, yet could fit in a standard long action. 6.5 Creedmoor vs .300 Winchester Magnum… The Big Game Hunting Blog is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.ca, Amazon.com.au, and other Amazon stores worldwide. It has slightly less powder capacity than the standard length .300 Winchester Magnum. Instead of being based upon one of the century-old British dangerous game cartridges, the 300 PRC is based upon the unique and original .375 Ruger case. As an aside, a quick comparison between the 6.5 PRC and the 6.5 Creedmoor—today’s single most popular centerfire cartridge—is called for. Personnaly, I use the 130 gr Barnes x bullet with fantastic results. If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles. Iam keen to get better performance at 800-1100 yards on Sambar in Australia.so your writing helps me with 300prc would work well but maybe not as big a difference that I’d like. But the 300 WSM … If you’d rather listen than read, you can either just press play below or click the appropriate link to download the episode through your preferred service. Aside from the aforementioned Hornady bullets, 190gr and 200gr Barnes LRX will work well with the 300 PRC (it’s a pure copper bullet, so the LRX is longer for a given weight than a lead core bullet) . Sort by. Is the .300 PRC smoke and mirrors or the REAL DEAL? If you really enjoy shooting at longer range, then the inherent accuracy of the cartridge and the fact that it’s designed to use very heavy, high BC bullets are both compelling arguments in favor of the 300 PRC. by Philip Massaro - Friday, March 9, 2018. It was the 300 Winchester Magnum vs. the 30 Nosler vs. the new 300 PRC. Here are some measurements and comments about the 300 Win vs the 30 Nos. Accurate Mag .300 WSM/6.5 PRC DSSF Magazine. It works great for many tasks (which we’ll get into in a minute), but the cartridge design simply has certain limitations. Otherwise, i think you’re unnecessarily handicapping yourself and I’m not sure how much of an advantage the 300 PRC will provide you over your 300 Win Mag. The biggest advantage of the 300 PRC is the fact that it’s specifically designed to use those really aerodynamic bullets. Buy some excellent 300 Precision Rifle Cartridge hunting ammo here. You can calculate head height by subtracting case length from the overall length of the cartridge. Tweet on Twitter. There is no end to the which cartridges are bigger, badder, faster argument. The Hornady .300 PRC required a come-up of 34 m.o.a. The largest real advantages of the 300 PRC over the 300 WM are Hornady got to start with a fresh sheet of paper on cartridge length and can use modern propellants. However, there’s not quite a big of a selection of really heavy, high BC .30 caliber bullets. The best I can do with my 300 WSM is 3040 fps with the Hornady 178 ELD-X. 28.6%. Joined: Jan 2001. The 300 is unpleasant to me and my friend eventually put a brake on it making kick less but more unpleasant to shoot. Finished rifles will be around 0.75 inch shorter in the action, and barrels can be a short 22 inches and still provide full propellant burn. Go. .300 Win Mag rounds are often a bit heavier than the more popular .300 WSM rounds. It bettered the velocity of the benchmark .30-06 Springfield by over 200 … At the same time, the .300 PRC actually has a tiny bit shorter case length than the .300 Win Mag (2.62″ vs 2.58″). Existing cartridges like the .300 Win Mag were certainly capable of excellent long range performance, but there wasn’t a .30 caliber cartridge purpose built for that task. The 300 WSM, or Winchester Short Magnum, is magic. John, Thanks for the great read I currently run 300wm. The .300 PRC doesn't limit you,” Thielen said. Availability of ammunition is usually pretty good online though and most of the bigger retailers typically have a good selection of quality factory 300 PRC ammo in stock. On the other hand, the designers at Hornady didn’t operate under those constraints. The cartridge is available in both the Hornady Precision Hunter and Hornady Match lines with 212 grain ELD-X and 225 grain ELD Match bullets respectively. First off, the cartridges have different roots and were built with different goals in mind. The 300 PRC also has about 7% more energy at the muzzle and about 15% more energy remaining at 500 yards than the .300 Win Mag. Both the .300 Win. Share on Facebook. The folks at Winchester opted to build the .300 Win Mag to fit in a standard length rifle action. With an overall length of 3.7″, the 300 PRC requires a magnum length rifle action. I love my .300 Winchesters. Reviews There are no reviews yet. Though the .30-06 was and is a great option for many uses, hunters and shooters looking for more power or better long range performance have flocked towards the various .30 caliber magnum cartridges for many decades. Jan 17, 2017 #21 S. specneeds Member. !! Hudge. Jan 14, 2017 #1 Non-Lead Hunter Active member . This will likely change in the future, but Hornady is the only major ammunition company currently producing 300 PRC ammo. One other good point about the cartridge is that even though it’s not nearly as common as other .30 caliber cartridges, the fact that it satisfies a niche market does make it less susceptible to panic buying (unlike the .223 Remington or .308 Winchester for example). The .300 Win Mag and the 300 PRC both fire the same .308″ diameter bullets. Head to Head: .300 Win. What an amazing animal and an amazing state. However, unlike the .375 H&H (and cartridges like the 7mm Rem Mag and .300 Win Mag descended from it) the .375 Ruger is a beltless cartridge, so the actual body of the .375 Ruger case is larger in diameter than the .375 H&H. Review Subject Required. Does the 300 PRC provide enough benefits for hunters and shooters to justify making the switch over to the new cartridge? You can shoot anything from 165 grains bullets up to 225 grains.” Indeed, the .300 PRC offers a level of versatility unmatched in other .300 magnum cartridges. Unfortunately, the 300 PRC does have more recoil than the .300 Win Mag though. Why not others? If they’re not plugged into the long range shooting community, most hunters and shooters probably haven’t heard about the new 300 Precision Rifle Cartridge (300 PRC) Hornady officially released in 2018. I tried the 200, but eith such a … Specifically, maximum handloads published by Hornady show a velocity of 2,875fps with a 220 grain ELD-X bullet and a velocity of 2,700fps with a 250 grain A-Tip Match bullet. It has slightly less powder capacity than the standard length .300 Winchester Magnum. At the same time, the 300 PRC has a longer case neck than the .300 Win Mag (.3076″ vs .264″). The 300 PRC also has a smaller freebore diameter than the .300 Win Mag. The 300 PRC is an intelligently crafted 21st century magnum cartridge specifically designed to take advantage of long, heavy for caliber bullets capable of delivering the highest levels of accuracy and aerodynamic performance. Mag. Tweet This Product. I would very much like to know your opinions. Attachment 57619. Joined Mar … 300 WIN MAG VS 300 PRC. Glad you liked it Jaco! For instance, the 300 Win Mag commonly uses bullets in the 150-210 grain range with 150gr, 165gr, 180gr, 190gr, and 200gr bullets being most common. This meant a maximum overall length of 3.34″. Instead of being based upon one of the century-old British dangerous game cartridges, the 300 PRC is based upon the unique and original .375 Ruger case. I’d be willing to bet a fair number of people on here have experience shooting 300 Win. And you will lose a lot of hunting buddies if they are standing in the wrong place,. So, the 300 PRC does have an advantage in this area, but once again, there’s not a gigantic difference between them. 300 PRC vs 300 Weatherby . You are not saving any overall weight going with a 300 wsm over a 300 PRC since action lengths are the same in a Tikka. Both PRC cartridges are outstanding for wide-open country where wind and distance must be overcome. 300 WM vs 300 PRC vs 30 Nosler. So, even though the 300 PRC does have some advantages on paper, those small advantages don’t make much difference for the vast majority of hunters. We examine the history of these cartridges and compare them side-by-side in several categories that are important to hunters and sport shooters. It was designed for hunting from the beginning – just a necked down .30-06 case. This is mainly due to feeding issues with the shorter actions of .300 WSM chambered rifles. Or so goes the advertising hype. Put simply, more head height facilitates the use of very long, aerodynamic bullets. As you can see, it incorporates a number of features to help accomplish that goal. Wonder if anyone can give their impressions on the .300 WSM or .280AI. 53 votes. This is reflected in the prices, availability, and variety of factory ammunition and hunting rifles currently in production for each cartridge. I built three rifles with 26″ barrels, and developed loads for each rifle. First off, the cartridges have different roots and were built with different goals in mind. The .300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) is the most popular and widely distributed of the modern crop of short magnum cartridges in terms of both factory loaded ammunition and rifles available. The .300 Magnum was designed to be a long range, bigger game (elk and larger) cartridge – good for a lot of African plains critters. At 500 yards, there’s just 2″ separating them. The high price of factory ammo and the difficulty involved with obtaining a reliable supply of ammo at times makes it a good choice for handloaders. While the 300 PRC can use those lighter bullets, it’s most commonly available with either 212gr or 225gr bullets in factory loads. Where some would tend to compare the .300 Win. Based on measurements I've seen online the powder chamber volumes (case volume less neck volume in grains of water) are as follows: 300 Win Mag: 85gn 300 PRC: 89gn 300 Norma Mag: 97gn I would expect 300 Norma to be a bit of a barrel burner. Ever since the .30-06 Springfield took the hunting world by storm at the beginning of the 20th Century, .30 caliber cartridges have been extremely popular among hunters and shooters in North America. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .300 Weatherby Magnum vs .300 WSM Winchester Short Magnum ammo rounds. Even at 1,000 yards, the .300 Win Mag has about 10″ (~18%) more wind drift than the 300 PRC. With careful handloading, it’s possible achieve slightly higher velocities with the cartridge and/or utilize even heavier and more aerodynamic bullets. Regardless of whether you’re using a .300 Winchester Magnum or a 300 Precision Rifle Cartridge, no pronghorn, mule deer, or elk will go far if you put a well constructed bullet into the vitals. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs .300 Winchester Magnum ammo rounds. Stock Filter. The increasing popularity of long range precision shooting has resulted in a good selection of high quality rifles available for the 300 Precision Rifle Cartridge. - Right now brass choice is very limited, and I don't claim to know a whole lot about Hornady 300 PRC brass but there is a few threads/posts already by some pretty experienced guys who've used it. I have a 28 inch barrel on my 300 Win mag and with Retumbo it pushed the 210 Berger VLC to 3060fps. For this reason, most 300 PRC rifles usually have a relatively fast rifling twist rate (usually 1:8″) in order to stabilize those long, heavy, high BC bullets. NodakAngler is a community of outdoors enthusiasts. Since the two cartridges use the same diameter barrel, throat erosion occurs a little faster with the 300 PRC because it has a little bit more case capacity. One of the advantages of the 300 PRC case is that its base measures .532, which is the same as the .300 Winchester Magnum. drops 12 inches at 300 yards while the.300 PRC drops 11.6 inches. With a 100-yard zero the.300 Win. Like the 300 Norma Mag, the 300 PRC cartridge is a non-belted magnum. Book an outstanding Africa hunting safari here. 300 PRC vs 300 Weatherby So I'm looking at getting a new rifle chambered in either 300 Weatherby Magnum or 300 PRC. Basically, the 300 PRC is capable of firing a heavier, more aerodynamic bullet at virtually the same velocity attained by the .300 Win Mag when using lighter bullets. Get a Leupold VX-5HD scope with a CDS dial and match it to your preferred load for the 300 PRC. The 300 Norma should have a lot more grunt than 300 PRC. This is very likely the single most commonly used bullet size in North America, so there’s an excellent bullet selection for both cartridges. While the .300 Win Mag is certainly capable of excellent accuracy in the right hands, the 300 PRC was specifically designed for exceptional accuracy and outstanding performance at long range. The 300 Win. It is a great cartridge and combination. Thanks Leigh, He Leigh. 2019 will see a slew of rifles chambered for the .300 PRC (30/375 Ruger). Regardless of how well a given person handles recoil, all other things being equal, they will absolutely shoot better with a milder recoil. ), they elected to just build a cartridge designed specifically to do what they wanted, then build the rifle around it. However, just to give you an idea of the benefits of the 300 PRC over the .300 Win Mag at long range, consider this: the .300 Win Mag has 20″ (~8%) more bullet drop at 1,000 yards and 96″ (12%) more bullet drop at 1,500 yards with a 200 yard zero. This is especially true considering the lack of 300 Precision Rifle Cartridge ammo choices at this point. The Winchester cartridge was also originally designed in the early 1960s, well before hunters and shooters fully appreciated the need for longer and more aerodynamic bullets. While this is probably not an issue for most hunters, typical 300 PRC barrel life is very likely a little shorter than typical .300 Win Mag barrel life. Name Email Required. Since it’s used by a relatively small segment of the hunting world, not every sporting goods store keeps 300 PRC ammo in stock, but most of the big retailers in the USA usually have a couple of boxes of ammo on hand for the cartridge. Handloaders have utilized bullets weighing up to 250gr with the cartridge with great success. This longer cartridge requires a longer action. Pin This Product. You might ask, “Why didn’t they just use a 7 WSM?” Great question! The .300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) is the most popular and widely distributed of the modern crop of short magnum cartridges in terms of both factory loaded ammunition and rifles available. This particular .300 Win Mag load drops below the speed of sound around 1,500 yards, but the 300 Precision Rifle Cartridge stays supersonic out until around 1,700 yards. That said, I wouldn’t count on finding 300 Precision Rifle Cartridge ammunition in smaller gun store. In addition to the advantages the 300 PRC has in terms of accuracy and bullet selection, it also has a slightly greater powder capacity. .300 WSM vs. .280 Ackley Improved. My 22-250 out the kitchen window and 100 yard head shots for the last three years puts the venison in the deep freeze. I hoping to use a lighter hunting rifle like Christensen arms or fierce rival leaning toward the fierce but it runs a 1:9 twist and your writing refers to pro 1:8 twist that lost the other rifles run. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufact My 300 win mag has a factory muzzle break so recoil is like a 243 BUT you have to wear ear protection. Good Luck Thread starter Non-Lead Hunter; Start date Jan 14, 2017; Prev. I tried the 200, but eith such a short neck the bullet takes up powder space. If you are in the “I will … 14 votes. You probably have saved the 300 wsm brass. 300 PRC vs 300 Win Mag. Let’s compare the two, in order to gauge how the .300 PRC will stack up against the best-known .300 Magnum. Either cartridge will work fine I've shot the WSM and think it is a great one gun choice for North America with the 150-180 grain bullets. Also, the .300 Win. 300 Weatherby Magnum. Like the 300 Norma Mag, the 300 PRC cartridge is a non-belted magnum. As previously stated, both cartridges have the same .532″ case head diameter. All in all, this is outstanding 300 PRC ammo for hunting medium and large game like pronghorn, deer, black bear, elk, and even moose. Thanks for your comment. Additionally, I recorded an entire podcast episode on this exact subject. to the 300 PRC, it needs to be clearly understood that the 300 PRC is first and foremost a long-range target round while the .300 Win. 300 PRC vs 300 Weatherby. This helps support the blog and allows me to continue to create free content that’s useful to hunters like yourself. .300 Winchester Short Magnum (also known as .300 WSM) is a .30 caliber rebated rim bottlenecked centerfire short magnum cartridge that was introduced in 2001 by Winchester. By. 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