Taking the nostalgia out of the equation, the .280 Remington makes more sense, or perhaps I should say is more versatile for the one-gun hunter. Looking for some pet loads for the 160-168 class of bullets. 7mm-08 vs 270, some thoughts. Thread Tools . Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure (29.92 inHg/1013 mbar) … 7mm Wby Mag. 270 Win vs. 7x57 If you had these two calibers and they shoot equally well which would you keep and why? We've got you covered.• .300 Win. DrMike Post subject: Re: 7x57 or 7x57 AI. It shot good as a 7x57 and still shoots good as a 280 Rem, but the difference is not noticable downrange, since I reload. Since we're comparing 7mm rifle ammo, I'd probably take the ol' .280 Remington over either, or as I like to call it, the 7mm-06. EDIT: Also found a 7x57 test that I did on 150 grain bullets. The result: a necked neck. ! The longer .280 Remington and other similar capacity cartridges actually add little killing power, but their increased recoil and muzzle blast make it seem as if they do. 7mm STW. versus une .30-06, une 7mm STW versus une .300 Wby ou encore, une 7mm Ultra Mag versus une .300 Ultra Mag. The switch would later be made to the 139-grain spitzer bullet at a much higher velocity, though the heavier bullet—and the Mauser rifle—made the 7x57mm Mauser’s reputation in the hunting fields. Joined Feb 25, 2019 Messages 17 Location Colorado . Same with a 7-08 vs a 270 or 280. 7mm WSM. Mag. Bolt Action Rifles Sponsored by Camera Land.280 vs. 7x57 . Those were right around 50 KPSI and 2800 FPS. I like the Norma 156-grain Oryx load at a muzzle velocity of 2641 fps, as that bullet had proven to be wonderfully accurate and I’m a fan of that bullet’s terminal performance. Probably not, partly because I was lucky enough to obtain it when the prices at Serengeti were a lot lower than they are now! Wow, what great bullet. #2 Short actions chamberings and rifles are simply more accurate. _____ CDR3 Veteran, NRA Member. KSTEPHENS. In their data the 280 has 26" barrel and 24" for the 270 and the 280 has alittle better velocity. March 20, 2020. In this case 270 vs 280, I have no idea why the 280 was created. It is a flat-shooting cartridge, and though it does have more recoil than does the Mauser, it’s very user-friendly. Our modern bullets have done nothing but help the 19th century cartridge, making it even more effective than it was in the 1890s. Those were right around 50 KPSI and 2800 FPS. 7mm Rem SA Ultra Mag. Nov 14, 2017 Top . The 30-06 is a fine round and tough to beat as a do all cartridge. par D-mon » 10 Fév 2005 01:26 . … Most major ammunition manufacturers offer at least one load for the .280 Remington, though it does still trail behind the .270 and .30-06. Looking for some pet loads for the 160-168 class of bullets. Both the 7x57 and 280 are capable of somewhat higher pressures than this. The Contestants. Mag.• .300 RSAUM vs. .300 WSM• .500 Jeffrey vs. .505 Gibbs• 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM• .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington• .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser• .30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s• .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM• .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express• 350 Legend vs. .35 Remington• .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. Looking at the elder cartridge, the 7x57mm Mauser began life as a military cartridge, and went on to inspire America’s sweetheart, the .30-06 Springfield. To simplify the question, the .270 holds more powder and it can shoot the same weigh bullets. With slower powders the on paper data suggest thats possible at 65Kpsi. The .280 is an excellent shooter, I don't recollect anyone here having one that doesn't love theirs, mine include. Reactions: Gb300wm, DHuffman and Mulligan. In fact, those two cartridges are likely among the Top 10 best selling rifle cartridges in the United States each year. I would not expect much difference at equal peak pressures. Killing a big bull at a steep quartering angle takes a very good cartridge topped by a tough, deep-penetrating bullet. I have built customer's rifles in both calibers, shot them. Maybe the best way to really determine the difference in velocity potential between two cartridges is to perform tests including multiple rifles and loads loaded to the same pressure as determined by the latest test equipment. quote: Originally posted by fredj338: What rifle is that being built on? Jump to Latest Follow One of the greater benefits of the 57mm case design is that velocity is limited to a level which tends to bring about optimum bullet performance with regard to terminal ballistics. 7x57 Mauser What rifle are you buying marked .257 Rigby? I've loaded for both and have owned several 280's, 3-4 7x57, but have only worked with 140's in each because there was no requirement for a 160 for my hunting.All these rifles had 22" barrels and ran the gamut from Remington Mountain rifles to full blown customs. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away”. Cartridge Fight: .270 Win. Cartridge Fight: .270 Win. (In the case of the 7x57, also 175 grain bullets.) and owned them. Not sure if you're in the USA or if you buy factory ammo, but if that matters I'd say the 7x57 wins that battle. After the Spanish-American War of the late 1890s, our military was forced to re-examine the .30-40 Krag; ultimately the influence of the 7x57mm Mauser gave rise to the .30-06 Springfield that we still hold so dear. I shoot 140s out of my .280 and have killed two bulls. But this isn’t due to it being chambered in weak, older rifles. With the 7mm-08 rounds, the top performing round only has 295 inches of bullet drop while another has 435 inches. I've got a rifle hunt planned for this fall in CO and need to find some factory ammo that shoots well out of my gun. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express, .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum, .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum, Large Mountain Lion Spotted Outside Dallas, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield, Head to Head: .444 Marlin vs. .45-70 Government, 2020 National Rifle Association of America. In the 7mm bore diameter, these are both middle of the road choices, giving the shooter enough horsepower to get the job done, yet both are usually easy enough on the shoulder to allow for accurate shot placement. At the turn of the 20th Century, with smokeless powder quickly replacing blackpowder, and jacketed bullets extending the terminal performance, the boundaries of acceptable cartridges were being developed and broken as technology progressed. Witold Krzyżanowski . Among many of the East African settlers, the sheer availability of both rifles and ammunition were good reason for using the cartridge on nuisance animals like lion, leopard and the plentiful antelope. Nothing I've pointed it at in anger has gone more than a step or two.~Muir . That’s not the point, or at least it shouldn’t be whenever one hears the 7mm vs 30 caliber argument. All of them will kill deer with equal efficiency. Hope you had a good Christmas. Nothing I've pointed it at in anger has gone more than a step or two.~Muir Ballistics on each are nearly the same however the cost of doing the 7x57 Imp places me about $255.00 over budget when the chamber reamer and extra dies are factored in . Jul 22, 2019 #8 Wapiti426 New member. In the first editions, a load is given for the .450/.400 Nitro Express (3 inch), but by Top . vs. .300 Ultra Mag. My favorite rifle is a 7x57. Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and Survival Situations. Sing it Bob. Why not just a .280? I can't part with either one!!! It’s essentially a short-action round that has the potential to run neck-and-neck with the longer .280 Remington. Pitiful. Few would consider the 7x57 a good choice for elephant or Cape buffalo, but it does make a great choice for deer, elk, black bear and a good number of the African plains game species. Apr 26, 2017 #5 STOMP442 said: Just finished building a 7x57 Ackley on a squared up Mauser 98 with a 26" Benchmark #4 9 twist barrel. vs. .30-06; 7mm STW vs. .300 Wby. I can't say anything about the .270 Winchester that hasn't already been written unless I lie. Thread starter ATX762; Start date Jul 21, 2017; 1; 2; Next. Of course you are right on the money. It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. (The 7x57 was designed for 175 grain bullets and the 6.5x55 for 160 grain bullets.) The longer .280 Remington and other similar capacity cartridges actually add little killing power, but their increased recoil and muzzle blast make it seem as if they do. I must say I'm a little surprised that an innocent little thread like this contains so many fierce defenses of one cartridge against another. 1941 270: 1895 7x57: _____ Ray. Durant toute la durée du confinement, nous expédions normalement vos commandes. and owned them. 7mm Rem Mag. Ballistics on each are nearly the same however the cost of doing the 7x57 Imp places me about $255.00 over budget when the chamber reamer and extra dies are factored in . I am an idiot who needs sleep. The author analyzed the 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. The 7x57 is a nice upgrade to that. For example, in the first edition, there are loads for the .219 Zipper, .25-35, .280 Remington, 8x57, .358 Norma Magnum and .460 Weatherby; the 16th edition lists loads for the 6mm Creedmoor, .25-36 Marlin and 7.7mm Arisaka, among others. The 7x57 mm is neither wildly popular nor widely available, but neither is the .280 Rem. Latest. Last year I contracted for a custom 7x57 built by Mike McCabe (z1r). Supporter . Comme le 7x57, au­quel il pro­pose une al­ter­na­tive plus puis­sante, uti­li­sable dans le boî­tier des Mau­ser 98, le 7x64 est pen­sé au­tour d’une balle de 11,3 g. Pour ce­la, l’avi­sé Bren­neke choi­sit de conser­ver le pas de rayure de 220 mm (8,8 inches). I need the boards input 7x57 Improved (40 degree) Vs standard 280 Remington. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure (29.92 inHg/1013 mbar) … One dropped like he was hit by lightening and the other took about 5 steps but never took another chew on the clump of grass in his mouth. 280 Ackley Improved Load Data; 7mm Winchester Short Magnum Load Data; 7mm Remington Magnum Load Data; 7mm Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Shooting Times Westerner (STW) Load Data ... 7mm (7x57) 7mm-08 Rem. The 175-grain loads have actually received a bit of a boost over the years, with muzzle velocities in excess of 2400 fps, and are as effective, if not more, than what Karamoja had. The .30-06, and its older brother the .30-03, were necked up and down to hold bullets of many different diameters—think about the famous .270 Winchester, .25-06 Remington and .35 Whelen—but Remington released their .280 Remington in 1957. You thinking of Roberts or 280?- drybean. I don't hand load, so would be reliant on factory ammunition. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. Shaw and just have your Ruger rebarreled to another 7x57 or to 280. Haut. By today’s standards, the 7x57mm Mauser is in the same league, albeit slightly less powerful than the .270 Win., .280 Rem., 7mm-08, and .284 Win. Joined: Sep 8, 2005 Messages: were included in that article, but could not match the four short list cartridges in the area of availability of rifles and ammunition (read popularity). They are the same cartridge, sort of like the .244 Remington/6MM Remington and the 7MM Express Remington/.280 Remington. Same dealer shows 4 options for 7x64 with 2 options in stock. 28 Nosler. It’s on a VZ-24 Czech military Mauser action. Illustrations courtesy of Hornady March 05, 2013 By Brad Fitzpatrick. quote: Originally posted by fredj338: What rifle is that being built on? A modern rifle in good condition being the only rider. With the Hornady Custom .275 Rigby load 140-grain load moving at 2680 fps, it will still retain over 1,000 ft-lbs at the 400-yard mark. emotional thing since I liked my 7x57 so much. It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. More Guns. EVOSTRIKE VS TIPSTRIKE in ballistic gelatin Test: Which hunting bullet suits you? Which of these gets the nod? Joined Jun 30, 2017 Messages 115 Location Austin, TX. Try Reloaders. 280 Ack Imp. 270 Win vs. 7x57 If you had these two calibers and they shoot equally well which would you keep and why? Survival. vs. .300 Win. 7x57 vs 7mm-08 Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by plp, Jun 6, 2018. Re: 500Whisper Vs 12,7x57 Anthis. Sure, the 7mm Mauser is an old-timer, but this older round can keep up with newer ones. I can't say anything about the .270 Winchester that hasn't already been written unless I lie. as a benchmark, according to the Remington website for same bullet factory load. Be advised that the neck on the .280 is a good deal smaller in diameter than the 7x57. I'm glad someone created the 6mm but it wasn't a necessity to fill a gap. So, the 7x57 has an emotional-historic relevance in South Africa. I have owned(and still do) plenty of 7x57,7mm-08 as well as .280 Remington. If I were you I would load it with Hornady GMX/Barnes X and not worry that you are under gunned or need a 7 mm. This will be a tough one, as they are both excellent designs, with long histories of great field performance. Factory 7x57 loads typically run from 139 to 175 grains, so Hornady's 150-grain ELD-X and 162-grain ELD Match appeared perfectly suited for this. 270 vs 280 vs 280 AI vs 7mm Rem Mag Ammo Selection. I load for my sister's 7x57, and RL-17 has given some great velocity in that case. Forced to pick between the two, the .280 gives more versatility and the sensible side of me will have to give the .280 Remington the nod. 280 Rem. ; 7mm Ultra Mag. HD . I had the .35 Whelan built some time ago for Elk hunting. I can't part with either one!!! vs. .458 Lott• 7mm Rem. While all four are pretty commonly available, the .270 Winchester and the 7mm Remington Magnum are by far the most popular out of the bunch. vs. .300 Wby. It shot good as a 7x57 and still shoots good as a 280 Rem, but the difference is not noticable downrange, since I reload. … Two classic 7mm cartridges, both with well-established reputations as all-around choices for general big game hunting, and both with a fair number of devotees. AH ambassador. Mag. One of the greater benefits of the 57mm case design is that velocity is limited to a level which tends to bring about optimum bullet performance with regard to terminal ballistics. Illustrations courtesy of Hornady March 05, 2013 By Brad Fitzpatrick. So, like the 7x57, the .280 Remington is at its best as a handloader's cartridge. 1941 270: 1895 7x57: _____ Ray. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. Jul 23, 2019 … EDIT: Also found a 7x57 test that I did on 150 grain bullets. IIRC, his findings were, due to the twist rate of the military barrel he used, rather displeasing as he was having a hard time finding an accurate load for his rifle; especially with lighter bullets. The author analyzed the 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. Apologies. Not trying to make any ground-breaking statements here, but something occurred to me when I was chrono-ing some loads yesterday, which is that my short-action … vs .280 Rem. Posted: Tue … Thanks all, I appreciate it. STOMP442 said: Just finished building a 7x57 Ackley on a squared up Mauser 98 with a 26" Benchmark #4 9 twist barrel. Mag.• .404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor• .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. In a longer tube the extra case capacity of the 280 allows more of the slow burning stuff. One .270 Win round only has 280 inches of bullet drop at this range while another has 444 inches of bullet drop. 1 of 2 Go to page. The answer is that one fits in to a short action and the other gives you about an extra 100 to 150 FPS±. Long before it was used in the war it was the standard hunting rifle of many farmers. The truth is that the 7x57 has proven itself adequate for even the world's biggest game under the right circumstances. jimmyraythomason, Mar 22, 2010 #7. Still- kind of surprised the differences aren't even greater. In the hands of explorer/hunters like Walter Dalrymple Maitland Bell, known by his African nickname “Karamoja,” the 7x57mm Mauser—marketed in the U.K. as the .275 Rigby—would be used as an all-around cartridge, for animals as small as impala all the way up to elephant. StarCraft II is a real-time strategy game from Blizzard Entertainment for the PC and Mac. I think the 30-06 would be a better bet. flu-flu Membre Confirmé Messages: 192 Images: 2 Inscription: 03 Mai 2003 21:33. While all four are pretty commonly available, the .270 Winchester and the 7mm Remington Magnum are by far the most popular out of the bunch. Wildcats be wildcats. As I pointed out on another thread , I have never been able to a .280 to shoot unless i loaded down quite abit. However, many gunwriters and hunters alike quietly went about loving the way the .280 Remington performed. S. srvet Well-Known Member. In fact, those two cartridges are likely among the Top 10 best … The advantage of the 280 AI is the better selection of high BC bullets, slightly lower recoil and longer brass life. 7-08 vs 280 is about the same as the 308 vs 30-06 discussion. The Contestants. With good handloads the cartridge comes very close to 7mm Remington Magnum performance--and does it in a shorter barrel while burning a whole lot less powder. The 7×57mm Mauser (designated as the 7mm Mauser or 7×57mm by the SAAMI and 7 × 57 by the C.I.P.) Can you can get a 7x57 160 loaded 2,850 to 2,900 fps? Uncle Grinch, Mar … 100 yard Ballistic Gel testing a 140gn Core-Lokt bullet. Check it out! Reactions: WVgoodguy22. Nous vous livrons également au drive sans-contact du Magasin de Nîmes. I remember reading a post written by BobVZ on the our old message board explaining his results of converting a 7x57 to a 280 Remington. The 7x57 produces velocities around 100 to 150fps slower than the .270 and .280 Remington and in doing so, tends to produce mild recoil (in suitably fitting rifles). To be honest, this is more of a personal, i.e. I have two 7x57 loads that both test near 55 KPSI, and which both put a 160/162 grain bullet at a trifle under 2750 FPS. La balistique en quelques chiffres . Twist rates for rifle barrels tend to differ slightly from manufacturer to manufacturer and from decade to decade (1:9-1:10), therefore, experimentation with the full range of 7mm bullet weights is often a requirement. Alas, like the 7x57 it suffers somewhat from a low maximum breech pressure, 56,000 psi. Toute cartouche de calibre .30 fournit plus d'énergie qu'une cartouche de 7 mm comparable. I love the 6mm Remington but it doesn't really have that much of an advantage over the 243 really. The 7x57 was a staple among those who lived in colonial Africa; the late Finn Aagaard related the story of the family’s 7x57 having a barrel that was shot out on game, not targets. Mag. SAAMI spec pressure is higher with the 270 65KPSI vs 60KPSI for the 280. Like the .280, the best powders for the 7x64 are those in the 4350 through to 4831 burn rate range. Like @wbm says, fine … Tuesday, October 27, 2020. The 7-08 in place of the 7x57 loses nothing a deer would notice. Well, I run a .280 with 139s/140s at 3100-3150. Introduced in 1925, the .270 is a necked-down .30-06 that holds .277 diameter bullets. The 7-08 in place of the 7x57 loses nothing a deer would notice. To simplify the question, the .270 holds more powder and it can shoot the same weigh bullets. fyrewall. But, a handloader and a modern rifle can run it at modern pressures up to 58-60K psi. I think alot goes back to when the 280 was a wildcat rd 7mm/06 and the 30-06 is 60kPSI they just kept it the same pressure level. 270 vs 280 vs 280 AI vs 7mm Rem Mag Ammo Selection. Everything else being equal, what is the velocity differential between the 280 and 7x57 using reasonable maximum loads in a modern action? They also need less powder … Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:22 pm Posts: 459 Location: Washington State, USA I guess the nostalgia of the 7x57 appeals to me over the 280. fredj, being the Sako maniac I am, it is on a M-75 action with a McMillan stock, Wiseman barrel, and Wiseman 'printing' of the action. Does the old 7x57 offer enough to make a hunter choose it over the .280? The .280 reamer will not clean up the old neck. 284 Win. The 7x57, 7mm-08, 6.5x55 and .260 can handle bullets ranging from about 100-160 grains very effectively. Go. Whether shopping for a new rifle, for perusing the used shelves of your favorite gun shop, you may very well come across a rifle in one of these cartridges, so let’s do a bit of comparing and contrasting between them. 100 yard Ballistic Gel testing a 140gn Core-Lokt bullet. I find no bad or negative comments written on either cartridge. ... • .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington • .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser Last edited: Jun 9, 2018. AGW- duh!!! by Philip Massaro - Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:48 pm . Reactions: WVgoodguy22. Calibre 7x57R en vente en ligne sur l'armurerie française, bénéficiez des meilleurs conditions tarifaires et d'une livraison très rapide. There is no plains game animal the 30-06 cant take down. I would have to say tha as a hunting rifle, either will do about the same. The 280 should beat it by a bit, but not much. My guesstimate is in a 22" barrel they are pretty much one in the same. Can you can get a 7x57 160 from 2,850 to 2,900 fps? 280 Remington. That said, the 7x57mm Mauser can be a very versatile cartridge as well. The case capacity and velocities generated by the .280 Remington make is a great choice for those who want the capability to take elk at 400 yards, bear over bait at 40 yards, and everything in between. 7x57 vs. .280 Remington. I've loaded the 175 in the 280 using 58 grains of 7828 for, SAAMI for the 7x57 is 51Kpsi. Can run 280/160's at 3,000 fps when taken to AI pressure level. The 7x57 is one of my favorite Bushveld calibers but might be a bit to slow if you planning to take some of long shots at game. Jul 21, 2017 #1 A. ATX762 Senior Member. By Ron Spomer. Reactions: Gb300wm, DHuffman and Mulligan. Introduced in 1925, the .270 is a necked-down .30-06 that holds .277 diameter bullets. _____ "So many rifles; so little time." In fact, the .280 Remington may be one of the best balanced of the Springfield family. The 7x57mm Mauser is the brainchild of Peter Paul Mauser, developed in 1892, and was adopted by the Spanish Military a year later. Since I don't have access to such resources, I would tend to use an approximation. 7-08 vs 280 is about the same as the 308 vs 30-06 discussion. Edited to add; I see now that cptpoly posted the same link, good info though. Both great cartridges imo. My favorite rifle is a 7x57. Last year I contracted for a custom 7x57 … par flu-flu » 09 Fév 2005 21:54 . Richard Mann tries to defend his beloved 308 Winchester against the ballistically superior 7mm-08 Remington championed by Ron Spomer. All of them will kill deer with equal efficiency. The truth is that the 7x57 has proven itself adequate for even the world's biggest game under the right circumstances. .280 holds about 10 gr more powder whiich I would say equates to 140-150 fps. 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